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Graeme Mullen
Advanced Member Username: graeme
Post Number: 96 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 8:44 pm: |
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Self Preservation We sip vodka Gibsons on the lawn. She talks about life insurance as I watch two butterflies fucking under the upturned kiddie pool. As a boy, I’d find them on the lawn, their wings frayed like old manuscripts. I’d pin them to boards; it felt like a noble stand against death. Drink up, she slurs, the summer goes sour quicker than you think. I find it hard to be concerned. I imagine my tan as film developing and focus on her eyeballs: Pale and bulged as pickled onions. (Message edited by Graeme on August 01, 2005) |
Jim Doss
Senior Member Username: jimdoss
Post Number: 1728 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 7:26 am: |
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Graeme, Superb writing and imagery. Weird, but in a good way. Jim My books are available at http://www.lulu.com/jimdoss. Visit The Loch Raven Review at http://www.lochravenreview.com.
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susan wiener
New member Username: susie
Post Number: 15 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 10:31 am: |
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Very well done, Graeme. |
Gary Blankenship
Senior Member Username: garyb
Post Number: 4410 Registered: 07-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 2:21 pm: |
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Graeme, a vg slice of life work. Bitter, but real. Not sure of the insects fucking, technically okay, but for a wider audience - locked in sex? Thanks. Gary Drop in read the new MindFire, 2005's first Go in through http://www.mindfirerenew.com/ to get to the issue in a click or two.
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Cary
Valued Member Username: ponderlust
Post Number: 129 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 3:59 pm: |
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Graeme...I think the imagery is superb as well. You've done well to show how the mind can wander like a ten year old boy. My only quibble is also the fucking butterflies. IMHO, fucking is graceless while butterflies mating is nearly a thing of art. Cary |
Bren
Advanced Member Username: bren
Post Number: 987 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 5:43 pm: |
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Hi Graeme, This is great and I couldn't help chuckling as I read along. One thing is for certain I may be paying closer attention to the future of butterflies after reading your poem. Bren PenShells
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Graeme Mullen
Advanced Member Username: graeme
Post Number: 100 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 6:46 pm: |
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I feel I must defend the fucking butterflies. The reason I chose the language is because it goes along with the cheap fling feel of the poem I was aiming for, and the sound of "butterflies fucking under the upturned kiddie pool" wouldn't work as well with any other word to describe butterlfy copulation. besides, in the words of my favorite songwriter leonard cohen, "there are no dirty words". |
Denis M. Garrison
Advanced Member Username: denismgarrison
Post Number: 450 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 7:44 pm: |
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Graeme, That old saw about "I'll do it for artistic integrity" applies here. The phrase may pare down your audience, but it is dead on right for the moment happening here. It gives it that exact edge that such a sodden moment has in life. Keep it. Kudos. True as a bell. bw, Denis www.dmgar.com Visit Haiku Harvest at www.haikuharvest.net Visit Loch Raven Review at www.lochravenreview.com My books are available at www.lulu.com/denismgarrison
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Emusing
Moderator Username: emusing
Post Number: 1417 Registered: 08-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 8:29 pm: |
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Maybe: Drink up, she slurs, the summer [goes] sour(s) quicker than you think. So much ado about butterflies.... I actually liked the fucking butterflies because it seems like an oxymoron. It's like angels doing it. Somehow the friction (cough) of the two images causes tension which works. A brilliant bit of bourgeois buggery E (Message edited by emusing on August 02, 2005) |
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Board Administrator Username: mjm
Post Number: 4746 Registered: 11-1998
| Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 8:29 pm: |
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Hmmmm, I never really thought about butterflies fucking before, Graeme. I suppose I didn't know exactly how they reproduced. Hmmmmmm . . . Well, anyway, I suppose I'm not negative about the words butterflies fucking for the strength of the words, per se, but more for the strength of the image. After reading butterflies fucking, I must admit it was difficult for me to pay attention to the rest of the piece. That image sort of stayed in my head while it was going Hmmmmm, and stuff. I suppose if you don't mind that a reader will go away remembering nothing but butterflies fucking, then I'd keep the image. Or maybe I'm just the only one who got to that and got stuck there. *LOL* |
Gary Blankenship
Senior Member Username: garyb
Post Number: 4429 Registered: 07-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 2:25 pm: |
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All depends on the audience one wishes to reach, this fucking for some - for others butterflies mating would be right smiles Gary
Drop in read the new MindFire, 2005's first Go in through http://www.mindfirerenew.com/ to get to the issue in a click or two.
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Dan Cox
New member Username: dcox56
Post Number: 2 Registered: 08-2005
| Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 12:02 pm: |
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I really like this. I agree, Graeme, the butterflies must "fuck" for full effect. |
susan wiener
Member Username: susie
Post Number: 60 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 12:37 pm: |
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Excellent poem! |
Dale McLain
Advanced Member Username: sparklingseas
Post Number: 1062 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 12:52 pm: |
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Ah... the butterfies actually make the poem IMHO. Bee do it, birds do it... butterfies deserve a go at it! Enjoyed this... and the ensuing discussion very much! take care~dale |
Graeme Mullen
Advanced Member Username: graeme
Post Number: 101 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 2:04 pm: |
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That does it, "fucking" is staying! Thanks all for commenting on this one. This has definitely been the most entertaining follow up to a posted poem. |
Dale McLain
Advanced Member Username: sparklingseas
Post Number: 1064 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 3:09 pm: |
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"That does it, "fucking" is staying! " Oh, it is indeed! Been around for a long time! LOL! take care~dale
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M. Kathryn Black
Senior Member Username: kathryn
Post Number: 2620 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 4:42 pm: |
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Graeme, you caught a certain air of dissolution that I think is difficult to find in poetry and write about. Good work. One of the images that stuck out for me was the description of her eyes. Best, Kathryn |